Chapter 429: Pain

[Kniveswood]

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[Dantsu]

I've just got an idea and tried to find it out in manda...

Kakashi is dying (or already dead... although I still hope he isn't yet) because of his chakra exhaustion...

We know, that

1) Every livind thing has both Physical Energy (=Shintai Enerugi is a vital force generated within the cells of living organisms) and Psychic Energy (= Seishin Enerugi is a force of will and mental fortitude)

2) Force of will (Psychic Energy) harnesses the strength of body (Physical Energy) to produce "Chakra", the energy that powers ninjutsu...

What kind of Energy was over? It seems to me, "he has no chakra" means that he has no stamina (= Physical Energy = Body Energy)... but still has his force of will (= Psychic Energy). Of course, it's no use in Psychic Energy if you have no Physical Energy. BUT if somebody outside (Sakura?) would be able to supply him with some Energy... and at the same time if he still has his force of will ... He has his chance to return to life.. if not too late..

Anyway, we've get tired pritty much and want to know for a certainty if he's alive or dead ..

What do you think?

[ShadowPhoenix]

Hopefully there will be hints as to if they are correct by saying that all six of the bodies are serving as "puppet" bodies.
By the Rinnegan being the technique of the "ultimate" shinobi, it would explain why each body has a specific power or function.
And if the technique is something as powerful as the Rinnegan, does the host of the technique nessecarily have to be somewhere close to have control over the bodies?
As we have already seen, the members of Akatsuki are well able to "be in two places at one time" as we have seen with Itachi and his partner.
What do you all think?

[memkvidre777]

Originally Posted by Dantsu

I've just got an idea and tried to find it out in manda...

Kakashi is dying (or already dead... although I still hope he isn't yet) because of his chakra exhaustion...

We know, that

1) Every livind thing has both Physical Energy (=Shintai Enerugi is a vital force generated within the cells of living organisms) and Psychic Energy (= Seishin Enerugi is a force of will and mental fortitude)

2) Force of will (Psychic Energy) harnesses the strength of body (Physical Energy) to produce "Chakra", the energy that powers ninjutsu...

What kind of Energy was over? It seems to me, "he has no chakra" means that he has no stamina (= Physical Energy = Body Energy)... but still has his force of will (= Psychic Energy). Of course, it's no use in Psychic Energy if you have no Physical Energy. BUT if somebody outside (Sakura?) would be able to supply him with some Energy... and at the same time if he still has his force of will ... He has his chance to return to life.. if not too late..

Anyway, we've get tired pritty much and want to know for a certainty if he's alive or dead ..

What do you think?

I agree that we all get tired of this dieing soup opera. His death should be more heroic and now we just became ready for all cases. There are two options:
1) If he dies I think he desired more beautiful death than just saving Chouji
2) If he survives than a big question raises: what for was everything this

[RuroBM]

Kakashi is not dead! (In my opinion)
Go to my thread here and it explains my theories, backed up with evidence from interviews with Kishi.


Anyway, I think Pein is going to kill Tsunade.... It's sad, but I really think it's what is going to go down.

[ron1093]

all pains are corpse ins't it? so the chakra receptor is the key in pains secret technique...im wondering that who is the one controlling all the pains....it needs enourmous amount of chakra to controll them.....and each pain has only one technique right?Maybe that guy controlling all pains is in invicible mode or in a far away distance...


lately in the manga Jiraiya fought pain and he capture one pain and bring it to Konoha by the use of his frog...It has a chakra receptor when the guys from Konoha examine its body right???pain can control the corpse by his chakra at the same time the help of the chakra receptor...If one body is dead he must use his chakra to revive it by giving his chakra to the corpse by the help of the chakra receptor.So when Jiraiya capture one pain,,,pain didnt have much time reviving that one??

I think pains technique have limitation i notice that he must in the field were he can controll all the peins....If the one controlling all the pains can be move a way from a far away distance he cant control all the pains right???But he will command all the pain to protect him....So they must seperate one by one and move all the pains to a far away battle field so that the real one who controlling pain will reveal...heheh...


Pain is only one and there is a lot of great ninja in konoha and other country...they can ask for reinforcement in their allied country...


all for one....go..:hinata :

[memkvidre777]

I do not thing that Tsunade gona die, if she does than new hokage is needed, but naruto is still too young for this, another person on this post would just change naruto's "way of ninja", he always claimed thad he'd be the sixth one

[ShadowPhoenix]

The bodies are definately being controlled by one being.
Saying as each of these bodies all have a considerable amount of chakra, the one controlling them all must have an enormous amount of chakra.

[Dantsu]

Originally Posted by RuroBM

Kakashi is not dead! (In my opinion)
Go to my thread here and it explains my theories, backed up with evidence from interviews with Kishi.

Anyway, I think Pein is going to kill Tsunade.... It's sad, but I really think it's what is going to go down.

Concerning Kakashi... It's still pending...

Concerning Tsunade...
1) Now when Pain knows about Naruto's location what's his reason to stay in Konoha any longer? His aim is to capture the Nine tailed but not to destroy Konoha (not now at least)... He has no time... So, we'll take into consideration that he could escape... In that case Tsunade'll be alive (and Kakashi's seriously injured (or dead).

2) In case if she's dead it really plausible that Danzo'll take an opportunity to takeover the Hokage title (while Kakashi's dead or incapacitated...) .


Kishi's told in his interview ...
6. 3 of Naruto's important people will die or get seriously injured
1- Jiraiya is dead. 2- Kakashi's seriously injured (or dead)
Did you think the third person could be Sasuke (he's injured as well...) instead of Tsunade... and then....

(Kishi @ 2008 Jump Festa)
"4. Naruto will collide Pain; Kakashi's team will collide with Tobi. There will be big turnaround on Tobi v. Kakashi's team..." "Kakashi's team" could also means "Naruto, Sakura and Yamato...".

So, it's still pendind... in my opinion...

[RuroBM]

Originally Posted by Dantsu

Concerning Kakashi... It's still pending...

Concerning Tsunade...
1) Now when Pain knows about Naruto's location what's his reason to stay in Konoha any longer? His aim is to capture the Nine tailed but not to destroy Konoha (not now at least)... He has no time... So, we'll take into consideration that he could escape... In that case Tsunade'll be alive (and Kakashi's seriously injured (or dead).

2) In case if she's dead it really plausible that Danzo'll take an opportunity to takeover the Hokage title (while Kakashi's dead or incapacitated...) .


Kishi's told in his interview ...
6. 3 of Naruto's important people will die or get seriously injured
1- Jiraiya is dead. 2- Kakashi's seriously injured (or dead)
Did you think the third person could be Sasuke (he's injured as well...) instead of Tsunade... and then....

(Kishi @ 2008 Jump Festa)
"4. Naruto will collide Pain; Kakashi's team will collide with Tobi. There will be big turnaround on Tobi v. Kakashi's team..." "Kakashi's team" could also means "Naruto, Sakura and Yamato...".

So, it's still pendind... in my opinion...

I don't think it could be Naruto Saukra and Yamato, because he says "Kakashi's Team" and "Naruto's Team" like 5 times each in the interview, why would he specify both if they meant the same thing?

Edit- Also, until it is printed in the manga, obviously it's still pending.. That's just my theory... so I base my predictions on other things, considering that I believe my theory, if that makes sense... lol.